
Magda Szubanski: I never expected to see this in my lifetime
Australian legend Magda Szubanski has been a champion for marriage equality during the postal survey process. Matthew Wade spoke with her about stepping up to the plate.
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When rapper Macklemore performed his LGBTI-affirming hit Same Love at the recent , Australian legend Magda Szubanski began to cry.
Not because it was a beautiful performance or a moving song 聽– though it was both of those things – but because the idea that gay rights would be championed on a stage as big as a national sporting field was inconceivable to her as a child.
鈥淚t was really just unthinkable when I was younger that one day at a rugby match there would be someone singing a song in support of our community,鈥 she says.
鈥淲hen I was young all we were trying to do was stop [being gay] from being illegal, and I couldn鈥檛 conceive of the idea that we would get to the point where we could get married.
鈥淚t really affected me terribly at the time, being the sensitive thing I was, I was crippled with internalised homophobia. There were no positive role models back then and most people just actively loathed us.鈥
Szubanski is an undisputed national treasure, adored by fans the country over as a writer, actor, and comedian. She鈥檚 starred in both television and film, most notably for her character Sharon Strzelecki in the widely acclaimed series Kath and Kim.
However, it wasn鈥檛 until recently she decided to come out, spurred in part by what she describes as her 鈥渘atural sense鈥 for social justice.
And since the postal survey on marriage equality has been a hot button issue, she鈥檚 been at the forefront of advocating a 鈥榶es鈥 vote, telling her story and encouraging Australians to post their ballots.
鈥淭he fact that people are outraged on our behalf and are fighting for us is worlds away from where we were when I was young, and that鈥檚 thanks to the brave work of people who paved the way,鈥 she says.
鈥淚鈥檓 just picking up the bat now. Whether I鈥檓 gay or straight, it doesn鈥檛 matter.
鈥淚 knew I had to say something, and want to do all I can to support our community through all of this.鈥
Szubanski believes wholeheartedly that the marriage debate and the postal survey it spawned is reflective of a select group of politicians, and not the general Australian population.
She pinpoints former Prime Minister Tony Abbott as one of the ringleaders.
鈥淭his has nothing to do with the people, this is politics,鈥 she says.
鈥淭hat鈥檚 what makes me cross – it鈥檚 politicians on their own end trying to keep their jobs, stirring up fear and hatred. Tony Abbott is the principle architect of this, it鈥檚 mass bullying.
鈥淚t鈥檚 not reflective of the spirit of the people. I think Australians are fair minded people and we get the whole principle of 鈥榣ive and let live鈥.
鈥淏ut the No campaign are muddying the water. It鈥檚 a political campaign strategy they鈥檙e using against a minority group, it鈥檚 unforgivable and it鈥檚 classic scapegoating.鈥
It鈥檚 been a particularly harrowing two months for Szubanski, who, along with pressure of a postal survey on her rights as a gay woman, also lost her mother.
However, amid the vitriol and hate from No campaigners, she says she鈥檚 found comfort in the solidarity being shown between LGBTI people and their straight allies.
鈥淚 would say, if anyone鈥檚 feeling down to look at my Instagram page, because there are thousands of positive messages,鈥 she says.
鈥淎s LGBTI people we鈥檝e all survived in one way or another through negative times, so we鈥檙e resilient and have learned a great deal.
鈥淏ut it鈥檚 important to look after one another in the gay community and try not to be triggered by what we鈥檙e hearing or seeing.鈥
While she says she鈥檚 a 鈥減erennially鈥 single woman and that it鈥檚 hard to find love, marriage equality is so important for the many same-sex attracted people who do find it.
鈥淲hen you do find love, it鈥檚 really important to be able to declare that in front of family and friends,鈥 she says.
鈥淚 really, really want this for young people, and I want it for older people as well who have suffered, and may have been with their partner for 40 or 50 years.
鈥淚t doesn鈥檛 matter what anyone thinks of you, you鈥檙e a beautiful and worthy human being.鈥
When it comes to how Australia might win a 鈥榶es鈥 vote, Szubanski urges young people to make sure they get out there and post their ballots.
鈥淚 want to impress on young people to get out there and vote, you have to post it,鈥 she says.
鈥淚f you鈥檙e feeling vulnerable there are a lot more people out there to support you now than there has ever been in the past.
鈥淒on鈥檛 feel like the nation鈥檚 against us, because it isn鈥檛.鈥






VOTE NO.
I鈥檓 a Gay man and was an activist at the turn of the century when much of the work on same-sex relationship laws was done. As soon as I received the Marriage Survey I voted NO. Marriage is a failed way to recognise relationships. It is full of flaws and encumbered with too much history that is hostile to homosexuals. Like it or not, the religions will always have influence on how marriage plays out in Society. Heterosexual society, families and friends will of course apply pressure to their gay loved ones to take the 鈥渉ighest form鈥 of recognition. Sure, there are alternate means for recognition but I believe that marriage will become the driving force in shaping gay culture around relationships. Things like 鈥榓 longer relationship is always a better one鈥 should be challenged. Should the end (or divorce) always be a battle? You can bet the dark side will collect the divorce stats. There will be reinforcement of the 鈥榦ne must be the man and the other the woman鈥 view of same-sex couples. Open relationships could feel pressure from marriage鈥檚 traditional teaching of lifelong monogamy. The concepts of cheating or infidelity could return to traditional meanings. Marriage inevitably puts one person in a weaker position, that鈥檚 how it was set up. Marriage is really about property and ownership. The list goes on. Do homosexuals really want to take on all this rubbish after years of trying to get free of it? Is this really the best relationship recognition we can get? We should make use of the registered partner (or equivalent) systems put in place by the States. Our energies should directed to plugging the FEW gaps where there is disadvantage between marriage/registered partners/de-facto. They then become a green field for us to express our relationships as we wish. We can then get on with what we have been successfully doing all along 鈥 making it up as we go. Sometimes equality doesn鈥檛 mean having the same.
By all means say NO for yourself, but why spoil it for the rest of us by imposing your bitterness on those who do want to marry the person they love! For your information I have been waiting 35 years to marry my sweetheart!!
After all of Magda Szubanski’s fantastic work for the Rainbow Community, and her magic and strong appearance on ABC’s ‘Q&A’ last night, I’d like to propose that Magda be *our* superhero: SzuperMagda ????????